Hearing voices and schizophrenia



Last updated 11/06/2007



A cause related alternative for the harmful concept of schizophrenia

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The issues:

  • Outside of psychiatry it is not well known that schizophrenia has yet to be shown to be a proven disease.
  • There is no physical, nor psychological test for schizophrenia and in all honesty psychiatry can only say that schizophrenia is a concept, a theory that has yet to be proved.
  • In spite of this psychiatry acts as if schizophrenia is a proven disease and the treatments offered and most of the information available to ordinary people about schizophrenia perpetuates this fiction.
  • There are now well known reasons why people suffer from the complaints that are mystified by the construct of the disease Schizophrenia.

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    Introduction
    Over the last 30 years the idea has been formed within psychiatry that the social and emotional backgrounds of the patients are not particularly essential in the development of psychosis. Whilst they may concede that they have a role as triggers they are not regarded as being a cause.

    The strange and harmful thing is that this procedure is claimed to be medically rigorous. However, this is not the way general medicine works. Here one looks for the reasons that lie behind the complaints and these reasons are essential for the diagnosis.

    In clinical psychiatry a diagnosis in the area of psychosis is constructed only on the basis of the behaviour and experiences. The great problem is that the consequent treatment is also given without analysing the causes for this behaviour and therefore only the “constructs” are treated and not the problems.

    This looks very much like the judicial system, which reacts to the behaviour and is far less concerned by the reasons that lie behind the behaviour. Therefore it is not strange that many patients in psychiatric services are not very happy with these procedures. They are quite right.

    Whilst we accept that suffering and serious complaints are sensibly seen as an illness experience, however, this does not conclusively mean that there the cause iss a disease entity like the construct of schizophrenia. As these ‘symptom’ experiences do not result from an underlying disease, they are not really symptoms at all, and might well have another origin. Therefore the conclusion can well be that:

    The people with the illness experiences exist but the disease ‘schizophrenia’, and therefore in this sense the illness, does not exist.

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    The problem with schizophrenia:

  • Schizophrenia is not a valid concept because it completely fails scientific tests
  • Therefore schizophrenia is not and never has been proven to be a brain disease.
  • The way in which people are diagnosed as having schizophrenia gives no consideration to the underlying reasons for the symptoms that people may be experiencing.
  • The way in which people are diagnosed as having schizophrenia neglects the very real relationships between the core symptoms (such as voices) and the individuals past experiences in life.
  • The relationships between the core symptoms are neglected, for instance the persons own explanations for their voices are not considered, neither are what the voices say, or why and when they arose.
  • The core symptoms do not represent expressions of psychopathology.
  • Learning to cope with the symptoms and with the problems at the heart of these symptoms are neglected by psychiatry.
  • People can recover from schizophrenia and most people who do so, manage this outside of psychiatry.
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    If it is not schizophrenia what is it?
    There are as we know, no particular causes for schizophrenia, however we now know that that there are causes for the different core symptoms of schizophrenia in individual cases.

    The diagnosis of schizophrenia is harmful because it mystifies the causes for the various behaviours and experiences of the individual, when in fact it is these very causes that need to be analysed and can become the successful focus of therapy.

    What are these causes?

    In our research concerning people who hear voices we found that in 77% of the people diagnosed with schizophrenia the hearing of voices was related to traumatic experiences.

    These traumatic experiences varied from being sexually abused, physically abused, being extremely belittled over long periods from young age, being neglected during long periods as a youngster, being very aggressively treated in marriage, not being able to accept ones sexual identity, etc

    In our experience many people start to hear voices and only afterwards developed the other experiences. These arise as a reaction to hearing the voices and because people cannot cope with their voices.

    One of the clearest interrelationships that have been scientifically studied is the explanation people give for their voices. Because the voices are for the voice hearer a strange, unknown experience, the explanation they think of is also mostly strange for us and therefore easily identified as a delusion.

    This means that the auditory hallucinations and delusion are interrelated and not separate symptoms of an illness. This holds for many symptoms of schizophrenia, being secondary reactions to a primary symptom like hearing voices that scares the person and with which they are not able to cope.

    When we look at the concept of schizophrenia in this way we find the symptoms are not the results of an illness entity, but the illness picture is composed of primary symptoms, that are a reaction to traumatic experiences that have led to a psychological vulnerability, which includes serious difficulties in coping with emotions. When we consider hearing voices as a way of coping with this psychological vulnerability, then secondary reactions arise because of the inability to cope with this primary symptom.

    Psychiatry disregards trauma as a cause
    However, this process of developing psychosis has been totally abandoned in the concept of schizophrenia as used in psychiatry. This is a serious oversight, for if they seriously considered the traumatic experiences they could then perhaps understand and discuss the emotional consequences and problems that people endure. By not doing so, psychiatry is abdicating its responsibility to help people to understand the relationship between their voices and their experiences, to support them in finding other ways in coping with their voices and with their emotions involved in their traumatic experiences.

    As long as we try to cure the alleged illness we are doing nothing but effectively suppressing emotions and because of this the person is being denied the opportunity to learn to cope with them and are therefore dammed to become or remain a chronically ill patient.

    In this sense the psychiatric approach has become a self fulfilling prophecy.

    A more helpful approach
    There are a great number of epidemiological studies that show us that there are quite a lot of individuals hearing voices and delusions without any apparent sign of psychiatric illness. In fact there are more people hearing voices or experiencing delusions without illness then people with these experiences that become psychiatric patients.

    For mental health professionals, this is something that has proved to be very difficult to accept. The simple reason being is that they don’t meet these people as they do not need psychiatric care. Many even say they are happy with their voices and their ideas about them because they have been helped by them in their daily lives.

    This reality, that there are quite a large number of people (about 4%) in the general population who hear voices and even more (about 8%) have peculiar personal convictions, that we call delusions, without being ill, compels us to realise that the experience of hearing voices or having delusions are not in themselves a sign of mental illness. This is quite an important fact in understanding psychiatric patients with these experiences, because it opens our eyes for the reasons why the person became ill. A person hearing voices becomes ill, not because he hears voices but because he cannot cope with these voices and that again can be understood. Those who cannot cope with their voices cannot cope with them, because they cannot cope with the problems that led to the onset of the experience of hearing voices.

    This double inability makes it important not to focus on an unknown Disease but: To help the person to learn to accept and cope with his voices and or delusions and with the problems that led to them.

    In this way it becomes clear that the focus on schizophrenia, an illness that does not even exist can not solve the problems that lie at the roots of becoming ill.

    Whilst diagnosis and treatment remain focused on the illness concept schizophrenia we will never be able to help people experiencing symptoms to solve their problems.

    In order to really help people we will first have to help them to cope with their experiences such as hearing voices or their personal convictions and that is by reducing the anxiety that arises from these experiences by using techniques such as cognitive interventions, which have been proven to be successful.

    However, following these kinds of anxiety reduction techniques it is still necessary to help the person to learn to cope with the original problems that led to their mental health problems.

    This mostly concerns a change in attitude towards these problems and those people involved with them.

    This is not simple but is rewarding.

    There is much more hope for recovery then you might think
    There can sometimes be a positive outcome with being angry with psychiatry.

    In the Hearing Voices Network there are a number of people whose anger at the system and the medication was the beginning of their recovery journey.

    This anger seemed to motivate people to try to take their lives in their own hands again or look elsewhere for help that had proved to be more successful.

    The catch 22 of course is that in mental health care, anger is often seen as part of the illness. Although anger is not a symptom of schizophrenia, it is instead interpreted as a lack of insight into the illness, which is a very disempowering interpretation.

    On the other hand, the Hearing Voices Network has seen that those who adapt to the psychiatric care system and the labels provided, seem less able to recover than people who protest against their diagnosis and treatment and also plan their own ways.

    From these experiences we should learn in mental health care. These experiences are well described by a number of well known psychiatric survivors like Peter Bullimore, Ron Coleman, Jacqui Dillon, Rufus May, Louise Pembroke and many others in the U.K. and elsewhere in the world.

    How you can recover
    It is easy to underestimate the great difficulty people find in talking about the original problem that led to the voices and other experiences. It can be because of shame, because of guilt feelings, because of anxiety. In many ways, the same process are at work as with traumatic stress disorder.

    People are brainwashed during their, often, long periods of traumatisation. They are reduced to nothing, made very afraid, made dependant, are heavily punished when expressing their emotions, are blackmailed. So they really have to work hard to try and tell their story and have to be helped with that in a safe supporting relationship. Another factor of difficulty is the anxiety that telling their story may lead to the voices being more aggressive or that the flash backs of horrible pictures will become more severe. These can be experienced as very overwhelming and intrusive, sometimes akin to the the feeling of being sexually overwhelmed and raped.

    However you are not powerless.

    We do not necessarily expect that you will be able to change the system and neither do we think that you will necessarily start a collective protest against the concept of schizophrenia because of the harm it causes.

    But you can:

  • Use your own experiences, your own contacts with psychiatric services, with mental health workers you trust and with other patients experiencing psychosis to start talking about and listening to other peoples’ psychotic experiences

  • Consider further what it is you are experiencing and ask other people explain what they are experiencing.

  • You also consider what happened in your past life and ask what has happened to other people that may have led to experiencing psychosis.

  • Then differentiate for yourself and with other people the kinds of experiences like hearing voices, ideas of reference, delusions, the expressions of your negative symptoms (like lacking initiative, isolating yourself etc).

    You then can ask yourself; “What is the difficulty in coping with these experiences?” This will help you better understand the nature of your anxieties, depressiveness, feelings of powerless etc.

  • You then can discuss how these experiences have developed over time and how they possibly interrelate with each other.

    If you are a mental health worker, family member or friend you could:

  • start to accept the experience as a reality and ask what has happened in their life that could possibly relate to these mental health problems and to begin with the life issue or complaint that first led to the experiences.

  • If they are confused about that then you go over their lives history asking what has happened to them in terms of illnesses they may have had; a loss of a close person; a loved one; having had problems in relationships with others, such as friends, family, parents, brothers and sisters; losing a job or failing to find one; housing or financial problems. It is also important to consider problems with emotions like aggression, physical abuse or having been belittled or having been aggressive themselves; or with sexuality, such as problems with sexual identity or sexual abuse etc.

  • If they have experienced one or more of these events and describe the problem, you ask if it could have anything to do with their voices, their paranoia, their beliefs and personal convictions etc. You just have to be clear to yourself and to others that psychotic experiences do not fall from heaven, but are related to serious problems a person has suffered in real life.
  • Then you are on the way to detecting the person’s problems and they might become less estranged from his/her self because of their psychotic experiences.

    This takes time and you will meet also some resistance, because people often do not like to be reminded of terrible experiences and might be ashamed of them.

    Those people we know are recovered all learned to express themselves, to give up shame and guilt after learning to manage their anxiety about their voices. They often wrote their stories down and then learned to talk about what has haapened. Some people hqve even started to speak in public and discovered that they have had useful experiences, that they can share with others.

    They started living their lives not their voices and visions

    In the mean time you can try out some interventions to reduce your anxiety, as they are described in articles and publications about cognitive psychological interventions or you could read books like “Accepting Voices” or “Recovery an Alien Concept”and “Making Sense of Voices” and consider how you might use for yourself the possibilities that are described in thes books (see publications).

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    Conclusions:

  • Schizophrenia as an illness entity does not exist
  • The Schizophrenia Concept is harmful because: It mystifies your social and emotional problems and It makes it impossible for you to solve your problems
  • A diagnosis of “Trauma Induced Psychosis” should be recognised, as well as other cause related alternatives, like drug induced psychosis, identity induced psychosis etc.
  • Mental Health care should be oriented towards: Learning to cope with instead of the suppression of experiences; Analysing the causes of and learning to cope with emotions; Working toward recovery and the development of the person

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    This article is an abridged version of a booklet written by Marius Romme and Paul Baker due to be published in 2007.

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    1. PeterMarch 31, 2008 @ 12:25 PM
      I am wondering where i can find more information regarding this subject as well as finding others in the Los Angeles area who deal with these same things. Hearing voices and all.
    2. Holly BerryMay 24, 2008 @ 11:18 PM
      Hi my name is Holly Berry, I'm interested in information about scitzophrena I hear voices and I do have a form of scitzophrena.I am in mentel Health coos county Oregon. I do have an e-mail address.I will post it here for you. holly.berry96@yahoo.com I do not have a web site though. I hope to hear from you soon, from Holly
    3. Ashraf Salah SaadSeptember 29, 2008 @ 07:59 PM
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    4. barbara maianiDecember 11, 2008 @ 02:19 PM
      I live in Italy , I hear voices from 10 years
    5. RobDecember 16, 2008 @ 12:18 AM
      i have been hearing voices for 10 year, it started 8 months after an R.T.A thay are most troublesome to me as the person i hear is also an ex of mine....im so worryed for her cos ive never seen this person since thay started. i also feel like im being raped every single minute of the day so far sleep is my only cure or rather the only time i dont feel or hear a thing...the worry i have to live with is hell on earth
    6. david h.March 20, 2009 @ 08:24 PM
      i hear voices mainly when i try and sleep. they are extreamly condeming like im always doing something wrong. i too live in hell on earth. i am a drug and alcahol addict that used to be a normal human being now i am being tormented by these voices ive been prescribed medications but nothing seems to take care of them. i dont know what to do.
    7. CassandraApril 17, 2009 @ 04:28 AM
      I feel for you guys sooo much. I am a parapsychology researcher who studies the psychology of ghosts and such and I see some very similiar characteristics in everyone I meet. Who's to say we don't all hear some type of voice or truly do see some wondering spirit of our past. I say, look beyond all conventional temporary methods and spend your money on hypnonsis, past-life regressions, acupuncture, astral projection, daily meditations, and any other form of holistic or earthly ways to heal. The power of mind over matter is in the palms of our hands. Hang in there and there will be a door that will open and let these demons out one way or another. If you have any questions about parapsychology and holistic methods email me at parapsychology@rock.com. No gimmick just a normal jobless researcher who would like to ask a few questions about the ghostly side of things or the spiritual or religious side, nothing more.
    8. Debra ClaytonApril 26, 2009 @ 05:34 AM
      I do not hear voices. but my Most loved son-in-law has just let us know that he hears voices. He says he has for years. He has been able to manage them until now.. As he puts it "I just can't keep the crazy in anymore". He says he Sees people who are not there and is actually, as he puts it, being possessed by beings. This has been heart breaking for all of us. We love him dearly but are at a loss as to how to help him. We are not really even able to talk to him because "Other People" are speaking for him. We are fearful of him as well. I wonder if an exorcism would help... Has anyone tried this just to see if it might truly be demon possession? We are begging for real help. I am very intrested in hearing from those with real and honest answers. Not fortune tellers and such.. thank you.. Debra
    9. JohnApril 26, 2009 @ 06:11 AM
      I've read this article and I can only wonder as to what these things are, why they only ever seem to be condemning and why no one benefits from them. From what little experience I have from being raised in a Christian home in America I can say the voices sound like demons. Like I said, I've had little personal experience with demons but I know the Bible is full of different occasions when people and individuals were totally plagued by these things. They could be beaten but not by us as people alone, there was always a higher power that actually send the demons away. Anyway, it just something to look into if you've tried everything else. The Bible is full of stuff, some people say it's crap and others say it's worth dying for but no one can decide for you. Take a look if you can, it might be able to help.
    10. ericFebruary 02, 2010 @ 08:20 PM
      please exiquise my spelling think you should anlize what the voices say to find modive and the reason people compare what occures to being raped is because the voices consider what they do raping the mind mind fuck excuse my french. most people are afraid of speaking because its a phycic block when thinking of something the voice dont like it induces a thought that the individual would be afraid of. if you study the voices and experences you will gain insight but you must beable to except out of the ordanry explanations. thire is much more i have to say but this is just something for you to think about.
    11. ericFebruary 02, 2010 @ 09:04 PM
      excuse my spelling. but its not possession it my seem like it to some individual. it is some kind of mind control but as long as he seperates his concese self from the area of the mind that these voices come from so that he knows what thoughts are his he can gain more control of him self. tell him not to let the thoughts create emotion then he can see most of the thoughts for the lies that they mostly are. the voices try to trick people into hurting themselfs or others using munipulitive thought. most thoughts or things the voices say server perpouse to the voices, by trying to induce fear or anxity they may also try to make a person think that people are against them in order to turn the individual against everyone. the most frequent occurence is causing dilusion of many kind to the person going through this it seems real so dont try to convince them its not real you must ask about what they think and why they think that to try to understand what the dilusion is carefully go with the dilusion if you will and slowly try to bring them to an under standing of who they were before the dilusion, so that they can realize them selfs.
    12. ericFebruary 02, 2010 @ 09:17 PM
      becareful of who the person that is hearing voices hangs out with i would tell you why but its only a theroy at this time. always be positive and focus on positive energy. they must realize that the voices play good cop bad cop trying to gain trust of the person so that they can ferther their munipulation, this is done so that one voice can as they say get a handle on the persons mode of thought. the voices come in pairs.
    13. ericFebruary 02, 2010 @ 09:25 PM
      the voices use the individuals sences against them, that includes any information a person might gain. almost like using there own brain against them. so when they stuter or find it difficult to answer a person its because the voices munipulate though and make the individual think that what ever they say is answering the thought and the thought is not liked by the individual to they hesitate to speak.
    14. ericFebruary 02, 2010 @ 09:48 PM
      the voices coment on every thought that the individual has i suspect for reasons of mind control to control the energy. i have a theroy that they some how gain something from each person that this hole voice thing happens to. what it is they gain is still a question. one factor i have been examing is the aquireing of diffrent knowlege because for it to be olny in there mind all diluison must only partain to things that they have learned if it gos beyond that thire are more questions that must be asked how to figure that is how did the dilusion develope and how different are the thoughts of the dilusion from what has been learned
    15. ChristinaSeptember 02, 2010 @ 11:28 PM
      Thankfully I found this very interesting and informative site. I have been diagnosed with schizophrenia, take medication and see a doctor but I have always had doubts to the cause of schizophrenia. What you have here in your site is very helpful. I started a website http://www.schizophrenia-sanctuary.com to try to get answers about my diagnosis and to hear others stories. Please feel free to write your own stories. (I will post a link to this site.)
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