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26 responses to “Contact”

  1. Rajesh Mangal

    Dear chris ,
    i am indian , age 40 , i used to work for nextrom inc usa atlanta , in jan 2002 , i started hearing voices , now you can think of what stress i have gone through till now . i still listening voices . i have taken heavy dosage of medicines . there is no social security ( 10 US dollar /month ) in india . but i am surviving , in india i cant get a job as i have been levelled that CIA is doing this on me . if you can help me out for a job so that i can earn bread & butter – pl

    now i tell you about your son : is he hearing voices , than ask him to calm down ( i know it will be difficult for him , as sometimes voices irritate the victim ) but tell him that by responding them violently or talking aloud will put family members in a powerless situation & medication will make him sleep . does he get irritation /pain in body parts too
    Regards

    Rajesh Mangal

  2. Jan Voll

    I have a 34 year old daughter who has been diagnosed with schitzophrenia (almost 10 years ago). At the moment she is in hospital in Maryborough, Queensland ( I live in Victoria).

    Do you know of any practitioners like yourself in that area that I could contact?

    Your help would be very much appreciated.

    Regards, Jan Voll

  3. Louise

    Are you aware of any voice hearers support groups in Winnipeg? O Nyone doing any therapy in thisarea?

  4. jeff

    I have had voices that want to distroy me. they talk about death all the time. they were not so bothersome when I was growing up but now they are very scary. I take medication for it but they realy don’t work that much.Does anybody else have this problem?

    1. Grayson

      I do have the same experience, i have for voices and one of them (Harmony- ohhh the irony) She is quite suicidal and occasionally she takes control of me without me knowing and trys to commit suicide, which is technically trying to kill me. She is always encouraging me to kill myself but i told the others that if she succeeds then we all die, since then they have been stopping her from taking control. I mean she still bothers me and honestly the others aren’t any nicer.. but it worked i guess.. for now at least things can change so quickly.
      Your not alone, I hope this helps.

  5. Len Lempa

    I am a social worker in Elgin, Illinois USA and am interested in getting trained to facilitate and support the development of Hearing Voices groups. Wondering if you can give me some info on who might be available to do this type of training and if you know of any that are scheduled in the USA at this time. I work in a hospital setting right now but am seeking to develop groups as an alternative treatment resource.

    Len Lempa

    1. Intervoice Admin

      Hi Len. It’s great that you’re interested in developing Hearing Voices Groups in Illinois. I’m sure it’s a much needed resource. Have you heard for Hearing Voices Network USA? They set up a website late last year and are now running facilitation training in various parts of the United States. It’s well worth getting in touch with them to see if there’s anything in your area. From our experience, it’s also really good to link up with others who are developing groups to share ideas and inspiration.

      Their website is: http://www.hearingvoicesusa.org/

  6. omyma

    hearing voices is not a stress it is new technology of converting thinking to words using satellite read about it . this happen to me and i know the person who do this . he also use chakra mediation and come every day in my dream

    1. sioux

      Hi pls tell me name of person responsible for these personal invasions as i can relate to you
      for my own experiences & that of others i know confirm wot you say! Best Regards Sioux, England

  7. Jay C

    I used to hear voices in my sleep as a teenager just as I was dozing off, usually calling my name a quick “Jay” and that was it. I usually woke up and said “What?!!” thinking it was my father. It was a male voice, somehow it was my fathers and somehow it was not and nondescript. I later believed it was just soul contact telling me to get “back on track” with my life. I was on a bad path at the time.

    Now I hear voices on a daily basis. I have a substance abuse issue that I am in recovery for, not using for 5 months this time. I only used to hear voices when I used stimulant narcotics, now even with resperdal a new antipsychotic med, I hear everyday the voices sometimes all day from the second I am conscious to the time I go to bed. Sometimes loud, sometimes distant. Many times negative and criticizing rarely helpful.

    The interesting thing is the “voices” have distinct tonality, timbre and pitch. I imagine 3 to be in late teens, a lower and higher pitched male and a female. Then 2 adults with southern accents. Sometimes neighbors or various others. It is usually loudest when alone and ironically some repetitive sound is in background like a fan or humming from air conditioner. Playing music always helps tune them out or focusing on something mental like reading.

    The ironic thing is that I was diagnosed with P.T.S.D. after a parents death but I feel this is an incorrect diagnosis. At first I was shocked to hear such aggressiveness, slept with a knife, a cellphone and a flashlight for fear of being attacked in the night. The voices at that point were very violent and aggressive as I even heard doors close as they approached, pictures coming off walls and movement of things they were supposedly stealing from the house. Since then possibly due to meds, they have subsided in intensity but now are on 24/7 most days..I have learned to tune them out. And we actually have a better relationship as crazy (no pun intended) as that sounds.

    They now criticize some though much less intensely but I take it in stride, and most times bothers me not at all..no aggressiveness or hostility and if so it is quickly disbursed due to my knowledge it is false. The funny way I logically tell they are fake is that I am just an average guy, and the voices are focused on me all day every day talking about me. I once joked to the voices to “get a life for chrissake” even I with my big head grow weary of the subject of me after a bit. Why would they not? lol Ego run amok!

    It helps me to not argue, fear, plead, even talk too much to them. I try to hear them dispassionately and with detachment and I can get thru the day well. Focusing in the area between the eyebrows and thinking the word Om helps too ironically enough. why I do not know. When I don’t take care of my body, stay up too late or get really out of my head with something is when I fall victim to effects of their presence. I have even talked to them, giving them love and acknowledging that they are there to teach me something. This has brought me from sleeping with a knife and climbing in my attic with a knife to find them to having a normal but a bit more interesting life in a months or so time. Please share your experiences with me and others too. If it was not for forums like this I would be in a much worse place than I am feeling alone, hopeless and crazy. Much love. J.

    1. Jimi Scott

      I hear you J (no pun intended) 🙂 and I understand exactly the road you’ve travelled with this. Thanks for sharing! It’s comforting to know I am not alone. I can relate almost to a t! I cannot type fast and it is early in the am so I will not share with you at this time but I would gladly share my experiences with my voices another time. If you need a friend that understands what you go through? Don’t hesitate to contact me (personal details removed by Intervoice Admin) “The Journey Continues”… Peace.

    2. Venus

      To Innervoice Staff, and Hi Jay,
      My name is Venus. I am from Washington state. I have 2 very close child hood friends that experience the voices. One thinks it is Government, and the other it is God and his fallen Angels. Chuck, with his government has experienced just as you have. his has been well over 12 years he has dealt with this. Just 3 months ago he took a new out look on them, just as you have, he stopped arguing with them listened a little more, and decided that maybe they are here to help him, and not hurt him. He actually is starting to trust them a little more then I feel he should. Simply because we are not sure who or what they are. Chucks new outlook has seemed to help him a bit. The voices aren’t as cruel and rude as before. He says if he does drugs they seem to get mad, Chuck feels it is because he fights back more or ignores them more then, they have less control. I know both of my friends very well, so I have my theories of why all of a sudden they have voices. You see we are all in our early 50’s. Chuck has nothing from his child hood to indicate voices, or experiences. Now Danny, my other friend, with God and his fallen Angels, he has a bit of history involving UFO sightings, being a non believer of God his entire life, until he got clean and sober got married, had a child, church every Sunday, and when ever. He started hearing fallen Angels when his marriage, and life started falling apart. I hadn’t seen him for about 7 years when he stopped by one day, this was about 6 years ago. He was talking about God, gave me a bible. The next time he came over he broke down told me about his voices, and God being mentally and physical with him, letting his Fallen Angels molest him and all sorts of bad things. This man whom his whole life growing up an Atheist, could now recite every bit of any Bible. I feel that he has disappointment within himself, then also I am sure he is angry with God for not being there when he called on him with his arrests, divorce, and now his daughter won’t talk with him. I think he is fighting with his Atheist self and his knowledge of the Bible self with it’s many contradictions, this is where I feel the voices come in, for Danny that is. For Chuck, it very well could be Government, The Haarp Project.com talks about a lot of things, one of them is Mind Control, and the micro chipping of people. They have been doing this since 1948. but, I don’t see Chuck being that much of an issue to have been chipped, so again it might just be his conscience also. Any way, my friend Danny wanted me to contact the Innervoice, and share a little of his story, along with Chuck’s. I read Jay’s story and it was very familiar to me, concerning my friend Chuck. So, just so you know, you are not alone, there are people all over the world with experiences just like yours. Hope you all can find silence again with in your selves one day. Peace.

  8. JAVIER NICOLAS

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  9. Jimi Scott

    I have been hearing voices for around 5 years now. I also communicate with the “Angels”. I remember the first words that were spoken to me (I won’t get into that right now). A phrase they often say to me and each other is “the journey continues” and “the journey is over”. This is how Angels answer my questions. They are ALWAYS with me . In dreams as well as when I am awake. I have been in need of a forum like this. I would love to meet people like me. I live in Vancouver Canada. If there is anyone who knows of people who “hear voices” in or around Vancouver area, that still have their sanity, contact me and hook me up!? I need the “CONTACT” (a word constantly used in the beginning). Thank you for all your help! I wish everyone, all over the world, that hear voices… Peace Within! (personal contact details removed by Intervoice admin)

    1. Jimi Scott

      I am still waiting for some sort of responce.

      1. lisa

        heard twice in my life. It was special.Simple true voice. all encompassing and surprising yet peaceful

    2. Rachel (Webmaster)

      Hi Jimi,

      Have you tried contacting the Hearing Voices Network in Canada? You can find their details here: http://www.intervoiceonline.org/about-intervoice/national-networks-2/canada

      If there’s nothing near you, you could also join our Facebook Group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/intervoice/). It has almost 1,000 members – so it’s a great opportunity to meet others.

      Best wishes

  10. Jade

    I used to hear voices when I was younger. I was probably aroud 3 -6 when I was hearing them. They were always there when I was in bed. I can remember I would be lying there ready to sleep, when all if a sudden these voices would come out of nowhere. They sounded like my parents or other people I had close relationships with. They would criticise me constantly, always pointing out my flaws and telling me I wasn’t good enough. It really scared me as I thought that they were actually my parents. It used to take me forever to get to sleep and I would be on the verge of tears every night. The voices have stopped now, and I only hear the occasional comment, and usually those are just my thoughts being said out loud in my head. ( If that makes sense?) I wish all of you voice hearers the best of luck! <3 c: xxx

  11. Lilith

    http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/News/Strange-voices-forced-woman-to-start-fire-in-shop-12102012.htm
    I wanted to know why you tweeted this story and put it on your facebook page? How do I explain how much more complicated it is than that?

  12. Elaine Weir

    Can you put us on your useful links page? We are a group for voice hearers in Glasgow. We offer open ended person centred counselling, peer support groups and one to one work for anyone who needs extra support.
    Thanks
    Elaine

  13. Stephanie

    Could you post information on untreated…unmedicated voices. I believe my medications are not what the label reads. There are so many people on the streets and in prisons who go unmedicated, what do they do to survive ? They need an advocate to help them to doctors who won’t exploit their desperate condition.

  14. Joseph Layton

    I work on a mental health unit in Ontario, Canada. I have a daughter who hears voices and has been diagnosed as schizo-affetcive/Bi-Polar. I READ AN ARTICLE BY ELEANOR LONGDEN from London UK. This lead me to your site.
    The theory interest me very much and I concur with the new understanding on “Voices” as coming from traumatic events. Many clients of psychiatry is being treated wrongly. Symptoms rather than cause of symptoms.
    I come from a Christian perspective and have another deminsion to the healing. Forgiveness being a major proponent of healing.

  15. Dr Constantine Kyritsis

    Dear Sir, I would like to point out here an alternative to the classical psychiatry and psychoanalysis approach and cure of the phenomenon of @Voices in my head@ as presented here

    “The voices in my Head”

    1) Abstract and concrete mind

    The mind can be divided to concrete and abstract. The Concrete includes all memorized information, like telephone numbers, the knowledge of a particular language , science etc and also memories of specific in space and time experiences. Concrete mind is of course mortal.
    On the other hand the abstract mind is closer to what we would call soul, and its orientations and perceptions are not restricted by any particular language. Although it can be expressed with abstract symbols or symbolic images, that essentially belong to the concrete mind it is true perceptual content is free for these expressions too. According to the teachings of the Vedas culture , the abstract mind is immortal and follows the immortal soul in the incarnations.

    2) Outer and inner senses

    The senses are accepted to be 5 (sight, hearing, taste, smell, touch) (see. e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_senses) , and for each an external organ exists, the eyes the ears, the tongue, the nose, the skin.
    But as each of this external organs is wired with nerves with centers of the brain, there are areas of the brain, sensitive and stimulated by the input of the five senses Conversely, if these areas and centers, are stimulated independently from the external organs of the senses (e.g. by electrodes or other causes) then the effect of the corresponding 5 internal senses is created. So we may say that we have the 5 external senses (sight, hearing, taste, smell, touch), and corresponding to them 5 internal senses (internal sight or vision, inner hearing, internal taste, internal smell, internal touch). Very vivid, and surrealistically exact imagination, may be considered as inner vision. The same with hallucinations created by electrodes or other devices of electromagnetic waves in the visual areas of the brain.

    Obviously the inner senses as well as the outer senses as mind content do not belong all to the concrete mind. For example inner taste, inner smell and inner touch may be be considered belonging to he abstract mind too. The famous 6th sense or hunch, might be very relevant to the inner touch.
    The modern discipline of NLP is definitely considering all the outer and inner senses and for the inner sense of touch is using the term kinaesthetic.

    3) Positive and negative intent. Ego, Self and the others. The approach of Steven Pressfield for creative people.

    Steven Pressfield in his very interesting book with title “The war of art” describes very well the psychological details and subconscious personal and impersonal details of the well known blocking of creative people like writers, musical composers, painters etc. He is called it resistance, and he warns that although it is impersonal , it may be expressed by people very close to us, and eventually it hits us in our inner self, and subconscious as we try to be creative from day to day. He describes it as a negative and regressive will , very cunning and ruthless, ready to kill every single opportunity we may have to create something better for ourselves and the others.
    He says:
    The following is a list , in no particular order , of those activities most commonly elicite Resistance
    1) The pursuit of any calling in writing, painting, music, film, dance, or any creative art, however marginal or unconventional.
    2) The launching of any entrepreneurial venture or enterprise for profit or otherwise.
    3) Any diet or health regimen
    4) Any program of spiritual advancement
    5) Any activity whose aim is tighter abdominals
    6) Any course or program designed to overcome un unwholesome habit or addiction.
    7) Education of every kind
    8) Any act of political, moral, or ethical courage, including the decision to change for the better some unworthy pattern of thought or conduct in ourselves.
    9) The undertaking of any enterprise or endeavor, whose aim is to help others.
    10) Any act that entails commitment of the heart. The decision to get married to have a child, to weather a rocky patch to a relationship.
    11) The taking of any principle stand in the face of adversity.
    …………………………………………………………………………….
    And I would add, that the Resistance chooses for time and space to attack, any situation where there is love., in what you do, what you think ,or what you are etc E.g. the moments that you are just writing the most successful and critical part of your script, or the hour that are bathing, or changing cloths, or waking up in the morning, or the hour that you are having sex, or existing a public place and entering your private place etc.
    ………………………………………………………………………………………
    Steven Pressfiled continuous in his book, defining the enemy of Resistance as Invisible, Internalized, Insidious, Implacable, Impersonal, Infallible, etc

    What the book does not describe is how this resistance is expressed through the thoughts and voices usually of people that we meet, and internalized to our inner senses.

    At a more abstract level this “Resistance” is a will opposing the will of our Ego, and self, in the process of creativity. It may seem and very often it does originate from other people, specific personal or collective impersonal, but eventually this enemy it resides inside us, like a bad infection from microbes.

    Steven Presssfield gives ways to battle it and be cured, based on rigid professionalism, perseverance, resilience based on be prepared for it, etc.

    4) The increasing number of Testimonials. Famous examples. Clubs and groups.

    There is an increasing number of reports and people complaining for “Voices in their head”.
    After the war of Vietnam, there were many veterans in USA, that were complaining about it, and it was like an “echo” of the loud sounds of explosions, and voices of dying soldiers as if engraved in stone in their mind.
    But these were easy to understand cases. More and more people were complaining to their psychoanalysts and psychiatrist for “voices in their head” , and these people were born even after the war of Vietnam or they never fought in battle field in any war (other that the “war” of surviving professionally in their business and society).
    Here are some sites were they collect their experiences.
    http://www.intervoiceonline.org/
    http://www.hearing-voices.org/
    http://www.ted.com/talks/eleanor_longden_the_voices_in_my_head.html

    5) Four types of internal “voices”

    An inner voice should be considered of course the content of an inner hearing as above, and within our mind.
    I think we could classify the “voices in my head” as of four types based on the two parameters
    a) In a concrete language or not (in the context of concrete or abstract mind)
    b) As the origin seems to be from our-self, or not.

    So there would be 4 types of “inner voices” ,

    a) inner voices in the concrete mind, and a specific language wording and syntax, with specific voice , that seem originating from ourselves, as echo of what we have said in the past and comes again, or as inner self-talking as we make a rehearsal of what we are going to say in a while to someone else. Such inner voices are in the content of the concrete mind.
    b) inner voices in the concrete mind, and a specific language, wording and syntax, with specific voice (of recognizable timbre) that seem not be originating from ourselves. Such inner voices are in the content of the concrete mind.
    c) inner voices, that are “voiceless”, in other words not in any specific language neither with any wording and syntax, but only the content and meaning of a possible phrase, which seem originating from us, e.g. in a voiceless deep prayer. It is in the context of abstract mind.
    d) inner voices, that are “voiceless”, in other words not in any specific language neither with any wording and syntax, but only the content and meaning of a possible phrase, which seem not originating from us. It is in the context of abstract mind.

    6) Who talks about it and who not. Models of disclosure.

    There are people who do have “inner voices” and talk about it, and people who do have and do not talk about it. Of course when an “inner voice” is of type c) (abstract as meaning only not as voice, and originating from us) then it is the famous “inner voice of the moral consciousness” something that in the christian tradition you are very proud to talk about it. Talk about the battle with your self and the victory of the voiceless inner voice of moral consciousness. The difficulties come with the voices of type b) and d) that their origin seem to be not from us. And even in such cases, the voices of type d) (abstract in meaning only and from outside), some times are attributed to God, and some times as temptations to the Devil.
    It is known in the new testament that the Devil tempted Jesus to become a king, and Jesus refused. This was obviously an inner voice conversation.
    It is written in the new testament that Jesus in his prayers asked His “Father” not to make him drink the “bitter cup”.
    And if we go even back in time we find that Moses was hearing “voices in his head” that in his case seem to be of type b) (concrete mind and not originating from him).
    All these are famous honored and celebrated among the millenniums inner voices of type b) and d).
    Other cultures like that of Buddhisms and Vedas do talk about inner voices, telepathy etc. The same with the groups of Cosmic Consciousness that report information about other more advanced civilizations in the galaxies. But for groups related to Freud’s psychoanalysis or groups of classical psychiatry, the topic is a taboo, and definite symptom of heavy psychic disorders like psychosis and schizophrenia.
    I was always wondering if a guru of telepathy of the eastern cultures would be considered suffering from schizophrenia according to classical western psychiatry!

    7) The regressive approaches and the trap of some of the psychiatrists and psychoanalysts.

    It seem to be a tradition to most psychiatrists and psychoanalysts to refuse to accept anything else except of inner voices of types a) and c) (always coming from us).
    Their argument “it exists only in your brain and mind” is so lame , and equivalent to ignorant about the radio technology, that when they listen the voice from the speaker of radio device, they will claim, “it is only created from the circuits of the device” a half-truth that if coupled with regressive attitude in medicine, it is the perfect crime against the visiting individual who what to know more to what is happening to him/her. And so from a healthy and highly psychically advanced individual who belongs to a minority of elite mind evolution, suddenly you become a schizophrenic according to the ignorant doctors.

    It seems to me that famous example of the Nobel prize winner John Nash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash,_Jr.) is such a case.
    I di believe the same for Eleanor Longden (http://www.ted.com/talks/eleanor_longden_the_voices_in_my_head.html), in spite the fact that both were bend by the medical system to accept schizophrenia in their cases.

    Are there cases of really schizophrenic people that in addition hear “voices in their head” ? I believe yes!
    I am not sure how a schizophrenic person could be defined literally. But the standard definition would have many actors that play deeply their many different roles, as very close to schizophrenic persons. Of course their are not according to the doctors, as long as they can play also well the role of the usually behaving person who says the usual common sense beliefs and controls himself not to be dangerous to others. It seems to me that “hearing voices in the head” is something totally different than schizophrenic situation. And to use their lame and half-truth argument: Don’t we all listen to voices in our heads when we where earphones and listen to chorals and other music? Does this make all the population schizophrenic? Is there here an element of money interest to psychiatrists that the more often they diagnose you with a psychical problem the more you will visit them and the more they will gain? And the same of course with the pharmaceutical industry.
    And obviously making a diagnosis for such healthy people as schizophrenic, is not only a indication of an out-dated regressive science of psychiatry, but also a crime against the personalities of such people.

    8) The internet model of the “inner voices”

    Internal voices of type b) can be understood as a wireless internet of the brains.
    This of course entails that there should exist protocols to control if a brain and mind wants or not to communicate through inner sight or inner voice, with another brain, otherwise we have clear cases of privacy invasion and personal information violation. Now not all types of brains , personalities and minds are able to communicate among them. Some brains have close frequency between them ( and at first I mean the average spin of the protons, electrons neutrons in the human bodies) but if so, they may or may not have sufficient affinity.
    This explains why this phenomenon is more common among close friends, twins, members of harmonious families, persons that work close in the work etc.
    But it can happen also to total strangers as if they were soul mates.
    In addition the brains seem to have natural firewall to protect them from other brains, but in some cases this “firewall” of the brain may have been destroyed. This natural “firewall” is reported by the Veda culture to be the aether net (aether body) , around the human body. (see also post 12). And destruction of the natural “firewall” may occur in high emotional excitation, or due to other reasons, or simply because of very high frequency of the consciousness and mind of the individual due to high psychic development.
    As this phenomenon of spontaneous telepathy at the concrete mind and the inner or outer senses is an emerging , chaotic and uncontrolled phenomenon, the phenomenon of “hacking” to the inner senses is also very common, especially if coupled with negative , hostile, aggressive intentions of the human will. So this phenomenon can become very dangerous and lead individuals to lose their ability not only for creativity but even worse for performing their mundane work. In some extreme cases may lead them to commit suicide.
    They have also reported to me cases of traffic accidents with motorcycle or cars, that essentially are created when the driver is attached by the “hackers of the inner senses” while they are driving.
    Other people even report, hidden technology of neo-nazi terrorist , of telepathic machines capable of locking to frequencies of the brain of people and creating, personal or collective interpolation in the thoughts of people, in the form of inner voices of type b).

    9) Global developments across the centuries of the human mind.

    There are may people who believe in the existence of more advanced than ours civilizations in the galaxies. In addition these people believe that in such more advanced civilizations (that are 2-4 thousand years ahead to us) the communication between individuals is entirely through telepathy. In other words that telepathic communication among individuals is
    the normal evolution for a civilization, and not a strange exception of the rule.
    In the series of books by Alice Bailey and in particular in the book “A treatise of cosmic fire” it is predicted that within the next 300 years earthly people will become naturally telepathic.
    If these beliefs are true, then spontaneous telepathy among people is an indication of higher psychic development , it is an emerging virtue and not an abnormality that has to be suppressed. And obviously making a diagnosis for such people as schizophrenic, is not only a indication of an out-dated science of regressive psychiatry, but also a crime against the personalities of such people.
    It seems to me that famous example of the Nobel prize winner John Nash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash,_Jr.) is such a case. Actually J. Nash himself has pointed out tha the relevant film is away from the truth, that what doctors referred as schizophrenia to him was on the contrary the same source of of his scientific inspiration, and that the insisting on diagnosing him as schizophrenic was much relevant with the pharmaceutical industry wanting to sell drugs to patience diagnosed with schizophrenia that is supposed that is never cured so as to have them buying the appropriate drags for ever.
    I do believe the same for Eleanor Longden (http://www.ted.com/talks/eleanor_longden_the_voices_in_my_head.html), in spite the fact that both were bend by the medical system to accept schizophrenia as their cases.

    10) The role of other people , the power of mind over mind and what is really happening.

    There have been reported many cases, where, some people with strong “eye” on others, with a rather unintended and random way, while they have their eyes closed while still in bed just after they have awakened, “see” with their inner sight, “through the eyes” of another person.
    Seeing “through the eyes” of another person is not a just a metaphor as it is used in literature, meaning to put yourself psychologically in the position of another person. It is much more literal.
    You indeed “see” with your inner sight, exactly what the other person sees with his eyes. As if an invisible mobile phone with open video-call is transmitting to your brain the nervous signal of the eyes of the other person. You see the objects in front of him with exact shape and color, the hands of the person or part of his body, exactly as he/she sees her hands and part of the body as he is e.g. working and moving the objects, or when walking or driving etc.
    It seems to be that it happens with other persons that there is some affinity of the mind, created by habitual physical contact with the other person. In other words it is more often with colleges in the work or other students in the University, between family members, close friends, etc. But it may happen with total strangers too that we have never met, and live on the other side of the globe!
    Other people have reported to me doing it for “fun”. Of course if the other is a stranger from another part of the globe not speaking English at all he would listen to the phrase inertly but he would understand nothing.
    For example he might be alone in his room, shaving in from of the mirror. Such cases are best to realize if you know the other person or not. In other cases you see them taking to another person. Actually you see the face of the other person.
    In another case a friend of mine described to me a visit he did in a monastery in the Holy mountain Athos in Greece. When he entered a very small chapel, that 4-5 person could hardly be together in it, there was already a monk in it praying in a voiceless way with his inner speaking. My friend told me that he was surprised to listen in his head all the prayer of the monk who was praying to Mather Mary and Jesus, with all the wording and syntax. He felt ashamed hearing to the prayer of the monk, and as soon as he went out of the chapel he stopped hearing in his head of the prayer of the monk.

    Now this entails also an element of “possession” of the other persons mind. It may involve sound and hearing too if it is strong “possession” or not. It is important to realize that this happens rather spontaneously without any paranormal protocol for it, or initial intention.
    A friend of mine told me
    “I myself have sometimes such experiences while in my bed awake and with closed eyes. It is not a dream, as you are fully awake, and you may know the other person”.
    My friend went on
    “As such a phenomenon includes a kind of possession of someone else’s mind , which is a kind of violation of his privacy, when it occurs to me, I steer my mind away from his/her mind to other streams of thoughts. But as long as I did not do it, and as long the audio element was included too, then if I “speak” with my inner voice , to the other person, I am sure he would listen to me as ‘”an inner voice” of type b). And I could startle him/her by referring to objects or actions that only he/she sees and knows. And I do know of other friends of mine that do startle in a systematic way their victims of “hacking”. In a case of some one that I new who was startling in a systematic way one of his “victims”, the “victim” chose to keep closed the light in his bathroom the nights and when he had to be there, so that that the hacker of the inner sight could not “see” and therefore apply any of his ironic inner voices He then went on : For example the “victim” might be alone in his room, ready to light a cigarette, and me (as I do not smoke) I could use irony and tell him with my inner voice “How stupid!, You will start again with a dummy of nicotine?”. Now this would be certainly spooky and startle him. He would think: “No one else is in my room knowing that I am ready to smoke! It is only me that I know it! What the heck is happening to me? Am I getting schizophrenic?” ”

    I have heard also reports of other people spying with the inner sight on girls in this way while they are having their bath, or are changing cloths etc According to me it is certainly an invasion of privacy, and violation of private information.
    In some occasion the “hacking victim” B was a friend of A, and somehow recognized the voice, and when after some days met he described to him (A) about his “inner voice” that sounded like his voice and asked him if he was real, A replied that what he (B) says is nonsense and his getting schizophrenic.
    But from another report, to me, in another occasion, the “seer and speaker” A did admitted his
    remote involvement to the private life of B, to B.
    The situation of course is even worse, when the person A “seeing through the eyes” of person B is hostile , with hatred and aggressiveness in a systematic way to the person B. In other words a situation of “Resistance” as described by Steven Pressfield above.

    The previous examples show how inner voices of the 2nd kind can be created (concrete and from outside to us sources).

    There are of course more rare cases, as some friends of mine have reported to me, where the previous phenomenon is mutual, and then what happens is something quite remarkable: Both persons A, and B see internally each other faces, and listen each other internally as if in front of screen in their brains, and a decent short exchange of a phase may happen with mutual consent about communicating in this way. I cannot fully understand from the point of view of the science of physics the details of it, but they have reported to me as their true experience.

    11) The tyranny of non entitled ,indiscreet and aggressive over- familiarity or Intimacy and the power of mind over mind.

    As we mentioned before the spontaneous telepathy happens easier among people with close physical contact. Also simply living in the same room or building might be a good reason.
    Therefore any tyrannic indiscrete and aggressive over-familiarity and intimacy will increase the probabilities of spontaneous telepathy of “telepathic hacking”, which create in its turn an inner voice tyranny.

    12) Possible and feasible resolutions.

    The first defense of course is to be aware of all the above, and be aware of all the 4 types of inner voices. Is it abstract in the meaning only voice or concrete with recognizable wording and syntax? Is it an echo from my habitual speaking or an inner abstract voice of my moral consciousness or do I have proofs that it more probably does not come from me?

    If it does not come from me, is it probable that it comes from the people that use to contact, or from even deeper and remote sources?
    If the inner voices are ours (types a) and c)) then they may become the source of self-discovery and improvement. But if their origin is not most probably from from us , then they may be really very dangerous or also very helpful and it all depends on our assessment.

    If the voices are of type b) or d) then silence and changing the habits that attract them might be an escape from them. Maybe we should prepare counter-phrases with our correct meaning and attitude with which we may battle them. And it is best to write on paper a list of such counter-phrases to the phrases of the voices. If these “telepathic hackers” turn to become very disturbing in our work and life, and threaten our best principles , values and intentions, we should not hesitate to declare war against them in the way that Steven Pressfiled very wisely describes.
    There is also the case that the voices of type d) might me from divine and inspiring source (common term God, or other human souls). In that case they might me of great help and value in our life. But as we mentioned before, according to the Christian religion abstract wordless inner voices of type d) can be either from the God or from the Devil.
    Let now go back to the voices of type b). In spite our efforts nevertheless the inner voices of type b) may continue. But in many cases that have reported to me the inner voices of type b) completely disappear when the individual travels and stays for at least a week in a foreign country that speak a different language.

    I strongly recommend the following practice of people hearing inner voices of type b) or even d)

    1) Write down what the voices is saying, with its exact words, and exact space and time situation
    2) Analyze why this voice is not from you, why it may be insulting, how it is violating your privacy and personal information if at all.
    3) Classify the intruder inner voice of type b) according to referring to a) what you have b) what you do c) what you think d) what you are.
    4) Write down based on 3) if this voice is violating one or more of your principles and values, and why it is distorting and undermining you.
    5) Then write down as a counter-voice what your true inner voice would be in this sistuation, that does not violate or distort your principles and values.
    6) Learn by heart the phrases of this own counter-voice and be ready to battle with it any future new attach by “hacking” of undesired inner voice of type b).
    7) Keep on insisting for ever in this way of your own designed inner voice, till the undesired inner voice is beaten and kept silent. Remember that this may take months and years. But it will strengthen you and give your own identity and a sense of victory over the intruder voices. After all accepting accepting and accepting is not he panacea of solutions to problems. What when the Nazi were attaching countries? The problem would be solved by Accepting them? No by battling them.
    8) Write down a small imaginary story where you are the hacker to some one else mind, your are the imposer of the undesired inner voice in him/her and how he/she is beating you with his prepared true inner voice. Then reverse the roles and make again your designed inner voice beating the intruder inner voice.

    As the proverb says sometimes we do not solve completely our problems but simply we survive longer than them. (A day comes that the problems die without us having solved them).

  16. wm. mark robertson

    I’ve been hearing them for along time now! just tonight watched eleanors video.
    Is there help near me? northern nevada?

  17. Psych Survivor

    According to http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/saving-normal/201310/when-is-it-justified-force-treatment-someone , Eleanor Longden is on record that your movement supports “forced drugging” in “some cases”:

    “Nevertheless, we recognise that emergency treatment is necessary on occasions and, if managed well, can be a means of healing, positive outcomes for both distressed individuals and their communities. The likelihood of this increases exponentially if involuntary treatment is done in a ‘harm-minimization’ way that respects the dignity, needs, and safety of the person concerned, where the use of physical force is kept to a minimum, and when it is implemented as a last resort when more collaborative strategies have failed”

    I have several possibilities for that statement,

    1- It could be that Allen Frances is lying, that Eleanor Longden never said that as a direct answer to a question about forced drugging (ie, that Allen Frances is taking a quote out of context). Given that Allen Frances is first and foremost a psychiatrist, this is within the realm of possibility.

    2- That the above is Eleanor Longden’s personal opinion.

    3- That Intervoice indeed condones forced drugging and coercive psychiatry in “some cases”.

    If 3- is the case, I think that the shrinks have already won. As Thomas Szasz says here in no uncertain terms, belief in “coercive psychiatry” is black and white. There is no room for compromise: http://www.cato.org/multimedia/events/libertarian-principles-psychiatric-practices-are-they-compatible .

    Since Allen Frances clearly misrepresented Thomas Szasz’s position, I hope that he did the same with yours. Either way, you owe it to your followers and psychiatric survivors everywhere to clarify what is your position on coercive psychiatry.

  18. Echo M.

    [just copied and pasted from an email I just sent to Intervoice]

    Hi Intervoice,

    I am an 18 year old girl who has been dealing with schizophrenia for several years now.

    I hear voices and have found ways to deal with those (primarily by wearing headphones or listening to something as a preventative measure, but also by “canceling out”, or stimming as some people would put it; I do talk back sometimes and argue as a last resort).

    However, I wanted to bring up the idea of visual hallucinations. I know they are less common, so there aren’t as many resources for dealing with them. I just wanted to share my experience.

    I have a variety of visuals, including people or demons, distortions (like seeing fire or water in the environment, seeing things decaying), and panoramic visions (which block out the visual field).

    Though I am still working on dealing with the panoramic visions, I have recently found that I can deal with the people, demons, and distortions by using a camera, as my hallucinations don’t show up on camera. Since I take my phone everywhere, this has taken a lot of stress off me and made me feel less dependent on meds and doctors… even a little hopeful.

    Other strategies I have heard of include using a laser pointer to see if the beam passes through hallucinated people or things in the environment. I have tried using mirrors in the past, but unfortunately for me, my hallucinations often still showed up in mirrors. I also wear contacts/glasses, so one indicator that something is a hallucination is if it shows up clearly when I’m not wearing them (and everything else is blurry). So I am interested to see if anyone else has had success with these strategies.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this if you did, and even if you don’t get to it, I appreciate your work. It makes me feel empowered rather than dependent on others to tell me what is real and what is important.

    If you could bring up visual hallucinations in the future (and coping strategies) I would be sooo grateful.

    -Echo M.

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